Curse

DarrenJasper · Jun 22, 2005, 11:19 PM // 23:19

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Originally Posted by GraceAlone

No, actually that is the entire conversation and it was out of the blue. I have never met this person before and the screen shot was only edited to remove the other names. If you want the unedited version just let me know and I'll pm it to you. This really was an unprovocted flame

Then, why does he talk about fundamentalist beliefs and making fun of gay people?

Bingley Joe · Jun 22, 2005, 11:22 PM // 23:22

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Originally Posted by GraceAlone

No, actually that is the entire conversation and it was out of the blue. I have never met this person before and the screen shot was only edited to remove the other names. If you want the unedited version just let me know and I'll pm it to you. This really was an unprovocted flame

Maybe he has a problem with your guild/their recruiting drives? Not sure if it was you, but someone from your guild mentioned having trouble with that..

Lilanthe · Jun 22, 2005, 11:22 PM // 23:22

I had quite a lot, but I don't feel the need to remember them.

The only thing I dispise is people drawing penis on the map... what a childish attitude.

GraceAlone · Jun 22, 2005, 11:30 PM // 23:30

That was me, before, and I'm sure that is where it came from. Needless to say ignore then report

Ardus Shadowmane · Jun 22, 2005, 11:43 PM // 23:43

Well, as they private messaged you out of the blue, it seems to me they were looking for you specifically. That makes me wonder if perhaps it wasn't someone who frequents our fine forum here, which makes me very sad.

Sekkira · Jun 23, 2005, 12:25 AM // 00:25

I like drawing on the map random smilies and stuff while we're wandering around, but if we're in battle or something, I'm concentrating too much to do stupid things. So if someone does stupid stuff on the map while we're doing something else, I don't care cause I have other things to worry about.

I still vote for the vote kick system where it doesn't kick them from the instance, but from the party and ass kicking commences.

Yamat · Jun 23, 2005, 01:56 AM // 01:56

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Originally Posted by Sekkira

I still vote for the vote kick system where it doesn't kick them from the instance, but from the party and ass kicking commences.

Oh man now that could be fun... 7v1 PvP!!! Annoy the heck out of everyone? Have some of this back at ya...

You've got my vote!

KaPe · Jun 23, 2005, 02:00 AM // 02:00

And than you notice he's actually lvl20 Elementalist that was "helping" you with Great Northern Wall and he Meteors your asses

You will finally understand how it is like to be a Char vs E on such early mission.

Nokomis · Jun 23, 2005, 02:03 AM // 02:03

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Originally Posted by GraceAlone

Just thought I would share what this very pleasant gentlemen did in game. I think the conversation speaks for itself, and yes, right after this he went on the ignore list.

Clearly the guy is angry with you, but aside from saying a few unpleasant things I don't see what he did that was so awful. Geeze, he didn't even cuss you out. If that is the most abuse you've gotten, you are oversensitive.

Hmmm...I wonder what YOU did that made him feel you were a bigot.

--Nokomis

Shadowsting · Jun 23, 2005, 03:15 AM // 03:15

I think the deal with Grace is that she is the Leader of a Christian guild, who are devout and stuff, I guess. The flamer was probably some over-zealous guy who wants to keep religion out of the game.

Dax · Jun 23, 2005, 03:18 AM // 03:18

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Originally Posted by Nokomis

Clearly the guy is angry with you, but aside from saying a few unpleasant things I don't see what he did that was so awful. Geeze, he didn't even cuss you out. If that is the most abuse you've gotten, you are oversensitive.

Hmmm...I wonder what YOU did that made him feel you were a bigot.

--Nokomis

Gad I've read through that myself about 5 times wondering what I was looking at. There's gotta be something missing (other than my mind) in that incident.

NoChance · Jun 23, 2005, 03:59 AM // 03:59

Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple?

GraceAlone · Jun 23, 2005, 08:03 AM // 08:03

Yes, that conversation is a response to a thread on this board (since this is the only board I visit)...the sheer fact that I'm a Christian was the reason for the flame. ANet is great though as I got a response about twenty minutes

Getting the topic back on track, not that this is a stupid/n00b thing, but I had a party member in shiver peaks carry a keg the entire mission. It was pretty funny to see him in the cutscene holding that thing.

Fantras · Jun 23, 2005, 08:17 AM // 08:17

Looks like you handled it well, Grace. I like it how he's calling you a bigot just because you are Christian. He must not pick up the dictionary. Also, that dude has been added to my /ignore. It's filling up fast, all from stuff I've read here.

JoDiamonds · Jun 23, 2005, 04:03 PM // 16:03

I'm not a fan of naming names, because that makes it look more like the start of a flamewar right away. Correct the action if you can, don't start another fight.

northernlights · Jun 23, 2005, 04:35 PM // 16:35

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Originally Posted by GraceAlone

Just thought I would share what this very pleasant gentlemen did in game. I think the conversation speaks for itself, and yes, right after this he went on the ignore list.

Are you referring to Old Orlick (or whatever his name was)'s homophobia or did I miss some other biggotry that was occuring?

GraceAlone · Jun 23, 2005, 04:41 PM // 16:41

No, his flame of me was a response to another topic on GWG. The only reason I didn't remove the name was so that others can know who this is. Not trying to start a flame war, and as far as I'm concerned the issue is dead and over

asdar · Jun 23, 2005, 04:50 PM // 16:50

Most of the groups I've been in were Pickup and almost all have been good. I got in one group going to Lornar's and we got a 2nd monk that kept saying one more minute one more minute.

We all were patient and waited, even through his one log off and log back on. Then we get in there and started killing. We got through a few monsters easily and he started spamming,

"SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP"

Line after line for about 20 lines. Nobody had even said a word word to him. The rest of the group had talked strategy while we were waiting for him and we'd barely said a word at all in combat.

Finally he stopped and somone in the group said, "Dude Chill out" and the monk went on a rampage of swearing and drawings and started spamming the lines of shut up again.

Luckily he then quit the group and we could move on. I was worried we'd all have to map back and not be able to stay in a group.

We couldn't use group tell or even whisper easily because his spam ran it up past the screen so fast.

I'll never understand people like that. It was my only real griefer story though. For the most part I've been lucky.

Ulric Druss · Jun 23, 2005, 04:52 PM // 16:52

This may or may not be outrageous, but I thought it merited some attention, especially seeing some of the reactions to the "Christian" guild in this thread.

I joined my first guild at lvl 2 with my first character. I stayed with that guild until I had gotten to lvl 20. It was a small guild, with about 12 members, only a couple of which played actively. These few, however, were fun people and I teamed with them as much as possible.

Shortly after I got to lvl 20, one of the other active members in the guild suddenly quit. I too was disatisfied with constantly having so few people to play with, so I PM'd them and asked about the new guild they had joined, lookng for some new options and new people to play with.

Here's how the conversation went:

Me: So, you found a new guild? Do you like it?
Him: Yeah, its great! Why? You want an invite?

Me: Well, I have been looking around a bit.
Him: No prob! I'll have an officer send you an invite!

Me: Ok, thanx...I'll check it out.
Him: One thing though. You're Asian, right?
Me: What?
Him: You're Asian, aren't you?
Me: Um...no.
Him: Oh.
Me: Why does that matter?
Him: It's an Asian-only guild only azns can play in it.
Me: Um...seriously?
Him: Yeah sorry bye.

So, I was excluded from a new guild because I wasn't "azn".
Now, it's just a game and people can do whatever the heck they want in their guilds, but I found this one a bit perplexing. Especially so, since I've seen stuff like this announced more than a few times while sitting in town.

It didn't really bother me, but I wonder what the reaction would be if I started a guild that was "white-only" and asked members if they were "pure-white".

Probably not very good.

DarrenJasper · Jun 23, 2005, 04:57 PM // 16:57

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Originally Posted by Ulric Druss

This may or may not be outrageous, but I thought it merited some attention, especially seeing some of the reactions to the "Christian" guild in this thread.

I joined my first guild at lvl 2 with my first character. I stayed with that guild until I had gotten to lvl 20. It was a small guild, with about 12 members, only a couple of which played actively. These few, however, were fun people and I teamed with them as much as possible.

Shortly after I got to lvl 20, one of the other active members in the guild suddenly quit. I too was disatisfied with constantly having so few people to play with, so I PM'd them and asked about the new guild they had joined, lookng for some new options and new people to play with.

Here's how the conversation went:

Me: So, you found a new guild? Do you like it?
Him: Yeah, its great! Why? You want an invite?

Me: Well, I have been looking around a bit.
Him: No prob! I'll have an officer send you an invite!

Me: Ok, thanx...I'll check it out.
Him: One thing though. You're Asian, right?
Me: What?
Him: You're Asian, aren't you?
Me: Um...no.
Him: Oh.
Me: Why does that matter?
Him: It's an Asian-only guild only azns can play in it.
Me: Um...seriously?
Him: Yeah sorry bye.

So, I was excluded from a new guild because I wasn't "azn".
Now, it's just a game and people can do whatever the heck they want in their guilds, but I found this one a bit perplexing. Especially so, since I've seen stuff like this announced more than a few times while sitting in town.

It didn't really bother me, but I wonder what the reaction would be if I started a guild that was "white-only" and asked members if they were "pure-white".

Probably not very good.

You would be drawn and quartered in the middle of LA. See, it's politically permissible to discriminate against whites or males, but try it against any other race or gender and you're public enemy #1.